A word to the wise is sufficient – a hint to the foolish is proof

Transmutation is accomplished by complementing the frequencies of the elements by means of symphonic wave interactions of light and sound.

from Cabalsgame.com

My occasion here is a post by Ahlfors on LENR Forum. This was put up in Rossi v. Darden Developments, where it was almost totally off-topic, then moved to the Playground.

“There is no $250M investment from anybody (yet) and your ongoing spewage that R was central to anything … Cheers, Sustain and Godspeed”

The quotation was from Dewey Weaver. I’ll return to the “$250 million” issue below. “Sustain” was sarcastic, imitating RossiSpeak.

And then followed an Ahlfors trademark, an image of text, with no source. I googled a phrase from it and found the source, the description of a fraud involving the sale of a right to purchase stock that allegedly gathered 2,000 pounds within hours of opening an office in Cornwall — and then the seller disappeared with the money, about $1 million in today’s dollars.

The book is The Elements of Murder: A History of Poison, By John Emsley, and it has an extensive section on alchemy, and this passage was a piece of it.

This led me to Franz Tausend, and the lead phrase apparentlylfrom him(?).

See also RexResearch on Tausend. From that article:

Just before World War II, a controversial young man named Franz Tausend entered into the industrial manufacture of gold. His business methods led him to be accused of fraud, but there is some evidence that he actually did realize the secret of low-energy transmutations of base metals to gold.

There are many aspects to this old story of interest to us. And none of it proves anything, other than the human propensity for foolishness, and for treating managed demonstrations as if scientific evidence.

Ahlfors seems to be suggesting that there is chicanery involved in Industrial Heat. Planet Rossi commonly suggests that there is something sinister about “shell corporations,” though, as far as what I’ve seen, there are multiple entities, all right, but with an open and reasonably logical relationship. The plan was to move overall ownership to IPH in the Netherlands, but when Woodford came on board, they wanted a U.K. company to be formed, since they were becoming — by far — the largest investors. So IPH remains a simple holding company for the IP, owned entirely by IH which is owned entirely by IHHI.

The idea of $250 million disappearing is common on Planet Rossi, I think Rossi has mentioned it several times. I did some digging on this and found that there was a claim of $200 million being invested in a Chinese venture loosely connected with Darden — who definitely visited China. There is nothing more than a vague hint that this had anything to do with LENR, and this would have been Chinese money going into a Chinese venture, not Darden’s pocket, as is commonly and casually assumed. There is nothing to connect this Chinese investment — if it existed at all — with Industrial Heat and the Rossi Agreement, other than Rossi’s idea that the world revolves around him.

So ele bringing up the $250 million, as one of his many RossiSpeak posts, is not surprising.

Rossi has been fishing for dirt on IH:

May 28, 2017 at 8:43 AM

Dr Andrea Rossi:
The puppets of the “ventriloquist of Raleigh” have made a mess about your past, from which you have been cleared, but we have discovered that Cherokee and Tom Darden, through affiliate companies, have a very dirt skeleton not only in their past, but also in their present, related to series of frauds in the environmental and financial fields, about which they are far from being cleared. We are a group of American citizens that sustain your work and we are disgusted by what is going on against you. We are preparing a dossier completed with all the precise references about what written here above. Where can we send it?
Never give up, you will win this litigation and from the papers so far published your case is much stronger than theirs.

Andrea Rossi
May 28, 2017 at 1:46 PM

No comment.
Warm Regards,
Send the evidence, if any, to:

The appearance of posts on Rossi’s JONP blog that repeat the Rossi party line, using the same idiosyncratic phrases, such as “the Ventriloquist of Raleigh,” apparently Tom Darden, and using other Rossi language (such as “sustain” for “support.” That was pointed out as a false friend cognate from Italian. (The U.S. English usage would have “sustain” mean “provide material support for,” not just approval, the way Rossi uses it, “thanks for the sustain,” and he doesn’t mean “thanks for the donations,” he uses it for any comment of praise or appreciation.

There is no evidence that Darden is involved with any of the derisive commentary on Rossi or Planet Rossi, found mostly on LENR Forum, and setting aside Dewey Weaver, who is openly an investor in Industrial Heat, a contractor to them, and who is strongly opinionated; there is no clue that Weaver is commenting on behalf of Darden, he is simply an insider with a higher level of direct knowledge than almost everyone who writes on the subject.

Rossi, however, formally accused IH of a defamation campaign, based on communications with Levi and Bo Hoistad, targeting his Nobel Prize chances. That fell like the lead balloon it was. (There is no Nobel Prize for engineering and invention; this was all a fantasy rooted, apparently, in the late Sven Kullander being on a Nobel committee.)

IH has not emphasized the Rossi past, aside from the technical violation of the Agreement with regard to tax payments; that only got attention because Rossi, instead of simply admitting what was true and, if there had been a problem, asserting that it was fixed and ultimately harmless — which it apparently was — made a huge fuss about how it was all coming from evil intentions to bring up his “messy” past.

Rossi and others routinely lie about that past. It was not all “cleared up.” Rossi served time and was released for time served, not because of being “cleared of all charges.” This is all irrelevant to Rossi v. Darden, it only makes a difference in how people moralize about it. Darden and Vaughn, like anyone with a serious interest in LENR, knew about that past. My own conclusion was that — obviously — there was a risk of Rossi being dishonest, but that we could not tell the difference between an inventor who wanted to look like a con artist (the Mats Lewan idea, after Rothwell) and a con artist who wanted to look like an inventor looking like a con artist.

Rossi approves all posts for JONP, presumably. He picks, then, what will appear, and, over and over, it’s what he wants to say or suggest. Then, for legal reasons, he writes “no comment.” Even though sometimes he comments.

The dirt referenced almost certainly is about Cherokee Investment Partners, because this has been brought up over and over, on JONP and on LENR Forum, and even here as an anonymous comment that was irrelevant where placed (this has nothing to do with Rossi v. Darden).

Leanne Tuffey
May 29, 2017 at 11:31 AM
Dr Andrea Rossi:

I agree with the comment of Anonymous published here yesterday and I too have information to send you on the matter. They are “serials” and repeat every year the same things with the same system.
I am sending too material to you.

Andrea Rossi
May 29, 2017 at 12:29 PM

Leanne Tuffey:
No comment.
Warm Regards,
Send the evidence, if any, to

If it is every year the same, how many years have they been at it? There ought to be copious evidence, one would think. The evidence that has been presented, so far, is miniscule and inconclusive, showing nothing more than ordinary business for the kind of venture capital operation that is Cherokee.

If these JONP posters are real people, they are idiots.

Nobody has been censoring this “evidence.” However, it seems LENR Forum is getting a bit weary of the repetition.


Today this appeared on JONP:

June 4, 2017 at 8:41 AM

Dr Andrea Rossi:
Did you receive the papers that Leanne and Tuffy promised you regarding Cherokee?

Andrea Rossi
June 4, 2017 at 2:36 PM

Yes, I received 1247 pages related to the activity of Cherokee from 2002 to today. We are studying. …

I’d be astonished if Rossi asked his attorneys about this and they said, “Sure, fine publish that!” Unless they wanted to earn more fees. Rossi has provided, on the blog, with this reasonable cause for a request for production of those pages and all information about their provenance.

If these people had truly hot material, seriously harmful, they would be doing harm to Rossi by providing him the information like this, distracting him (dirt about Cherokee is irrelevant to Rossi v. Darden and he would not be able to introduce it unless somehow it were directly relevant and he could show that), and tempting him to break various laws or commit various torts.

Anyway, I decided to look for more comments about Cherokee on JONP.

April 26, 2016, a post by Luis Navarro copied gossipy material from comments on Lewan’s blog, by Josh G. Most of it is familiar. Looking over that Lewan blog page, we can see the same arguments that have been presented over and over, questions asked as if they have never been asked before, even though they have, and have been answered ad nauseum. (But, there, some of these are asked for the first time, though, to be sure, taken from Rossi’s Complaint as if the claims there were fact.

April 7, 2016, Rossi made his classic claims:

In the press release of IH they write that ” for three years they tried to replicate the Rossi effect, with no avail”: very good, but during those three years Industrial Heat collected about 60 million dollars from Woodford, more millions from other sources, exclusively based on my E-Cats technology. This before making shopping to buy other patents. Now, the cases are two: either they are lying when they say they didn’t replicate, or they made a fraud collecting 60 millions from Woodford, more from others, not to mention Cherokee fund. You had to see Tom Darden and JT Vaughn dance like ballet etoiles around the investors, showing them the E-Cats, and telling them that the E-Cats had been built by them! “Stellar” coherently Darden, in his role of etoile, repeated to the enchanted attandees, ready to spend 50 millions. Now, that my bill arrived, the E-Cat had not been replicated , they say. For three years. Again, I am just answering to a press release of IH.

Woodford invested $50 million U.S., but it appears from court filings that this was planned before the Woodford visit in February, 2016; Woodford actually closed the investment in May, 2016. The investment was obviously never “exclusively” based on Rossi technology, since it was then spent on other approaches, very little on Rossi. Woodford insisted that this money go into IHHI, incorporated in the United Kingdom, where they could watch it closely. At that Woodford visit, it appears that Rossi paid Bass to be “Engineering Director” of the “customer,” and to tell the visitors how well it was going, how happy they were.

“Just answering”? No, he’s presenting what he imagines is a legal argument, his circumstantial argument that IH must be lying,  one that won’t fly in court. IH behavior in this period is quite well documented. It simply does not match the Rossi fantasy, but Rossi has fans who lap it up.

October 19, 2016 at 1:24 PM

Dear Andrea:
As you probably have seen, Brillouin has published their demo at the ICCF of Japan: congratulations, you have got another replication of your effect: their reactor is a true copy of your old Hot Cat. After their agreement with Cherokee-IH, they have got from Darden your technology and replicated it. Probably you noticed that since their agreement with IH, Brillouin has just repeated as a parrot every move of you…even the reactor that resambles a pencil.
You must really be ready to invade the world with a strongly competitive, economy scale based product before disclosing your QuarkX. Cherokee-IH-Brillouin will try to copy the QuarkX immediately and will say that their is “original”. Darden has to make his investors bite the toilet papers he filled with IH, that remained an empty box after your departure from Cherokee-IH. They made the money disappear and substituted it with the toilet papers of things that never worked and never will work. Now they, together with Woodford, must convince all the investors of Cherokee and Woodford that IH has a value of IP worth the money that disappeared from IH. They know that they can replicate you in laboratory, but cannot violate your patents in the real market…Beware, Andrea and remember here you have big friends.
From Russia, with love,

I’ve written about D.T. posts before. The language is Planet Rossi, including the “toilet papers” and “they made the money disappear.” Rossi made extensive efforts to discover evidence of disclosure of his technology to Brillouin and others, apparently failing — but IH did have the right to sublicense, under the Agreement. D.T. would be correct that the patents cannot be violated in the real market, but … IH holds a license for the Americans, so if Brillouin does develop a product, with Rossi IP, they would legally be required to pay royalties to IH. However, I’ve studied the recent Brillouin press release and this does not resemble Rossi technology, at all, beyond being nickel hydride. It is also less than convincing, the report from SRI was preliminary and not internally approved by SRI for public release.

Also Planet Rossi is the idea that Cherokee invested in Industrial Heat. Apparently, they never did. IH spent roughly $20 million or so, their original investment, attempting to confirm the Rossi claims. That is the money that “disappeared.” IHHI money, some of it, has been spent on other efforts, supporting research, and apparently has not developed commercially useful IP, and that is surely known to the investors. IHHI, from their formal statements filed in the U.K., is in the field for the long term.

May 5, 2016 at 12:05 PM

[This begins with “INDISPUTABLE FACTS:” and then proceeds to allege as if it were fact what is innuendo, suspicion, and guilt by association (Cherokee was apparently defrauded at one point) with little fact, and to cite evidence that actually contradicts the claims made, a pattern that also is found in the Rossi pleadings in Rossi v. Darden.]

Ing. Michelangelo De Meo
May 21, 2016 at 9:38 AM

[This points to a mention of Cherokee in a story about investment company practices, referring to a case which I have covered elsewhere. In 2016, Cherokee settled with the Securities and Exchange Commission in the matter of an apparent accounting error, the allocation of costs for complying with new regulations. This was the equivalent of a parking citation in impact on Cherokee, and the settlement made no admission of any wrongdoing, only error (and thus the minor fine). Rossi thanked Ing. De Meo for the “interesting information.”]

There is a lot more, but … enough for today.

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5 thoughts on “A word to the wise is sufficient – a hint to the foolish is proof”

  1. Talking about Dewey Weaver, did you notice that he put a very encouraging comment for the MFMP/me356 test at https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5228-me356-photos-of-aura-control-unit/?postID=61001#post61001 ? He’s not always sarcastic, just to ele/SSC and people like that who keep plugging the Rossi Says Story.

    I’m not sure of the usefulness in finding out where Ahlfors gets his evidence, since it looks like it’s more intended to divert than to inform. However, Rossi is documented as having turned waste tyres and suchlike into Gold, which he then tried to export without being noticed. Maybe he should have used a bulletproof Rolls Royce….

    Meantime, both the Anonymous member of a group of American citizens and Leanne Tuffey have a very Italian turn of phrase. Could be they are idiots whether they are real people or not. I think there are a few real people on JONP, but not that many. Surely it must be obvious to everyone that Rossi writes a lot of the comments, associates of his write some others, and that there’s no point in asking a real question.

    Though I do take some time to read LF when I have the occasion to be seated for a while, the signal to noise ratio isn’t very good. Often the socks make an attempt to derail the discussion, then a standard answer is given by someone as if the sock is really wanting to know the answer. Personally, I can’t see the gain for the puppet-master since LF is not where Rossi’s success will be gauged. Rossi can count it a success if he stays out of jail and isn’t totally bankrupt. I don’t think he’s going to get any big investors in future, no matter what the blog record holds.

    1. Yes, I noticed that comment. As to Ahlfors, he is a space-filler, a time-waster, almost entirely, because of how he posts. As to Rossi and gold smuggling, I think he was almost recycling materials that contained gold. (Example: plug-in printed circuit board edge contacts are often plated with gold.) The word “sustain” can mean “support,” but not in that context. These linguistic signs could have another explanation, but when they arise over and over …. and the Ventriloquist of Raleigh wasn’t some subtle resemblance.

      If ele is Rossi, I remain puzzled. Does Rossi believe what ele writes? Does Rossi believe what Rossi writes? In any case, Eric today confronted ele on the $250 million trope. I searched extensively for the beginning of that, and eventually found it. It was a speculation about a Chinese investment. Ele connects this with the investors who visited the Plant. What ele — and Rossi — never mention is that the only investment that was made after a plant visit had been planned, from court documents, long before that (i.e., Woodford). There is no sign of any Chinese investment after a Plant visit. Frankly, if I saw the Plant with an alleged megawatt of steam going through hole in a wall, with no sign of where that heat was ending up, I’d be far less than impressed. That arrangement was not contemplated with the Doral move was negotiated — but Rossi has said that the Term Sheet prohibited IH from accessing the “customer area.” There was a draft that said that. It was removed. So Rossi is heavily confused. I think the word is paranoid.

      1. Abd – although it looks like ele and SSC are the same person, it does not appear to be Rossi himself but someone close to him. I doubt if either sock will comment here, since that would give you some big clues as to location and identity.

        Though it seems Rossi (and a few others connected with him) is intent on sowing confusion and on trying to convince the blogs of the reality of his technology, I don’t see how this will aid him in the court case or afterwards. The blogs will have zero affect on the jury. Maybe it makes Rossi feel good, but basically he’s wasting his time doing this.

        A lot in this story doesn’t follow a logical course. It would have been logical for Rossi to have disappeared with the $10M or so to somewhere he couldn’t be extradited from, rather than buy Florida property that is easily sequestered by the authorities. Buying Bitcoins and then converting them to the currency of his choice would have overcome the currency controls – though Bitcoins are a very obvious scam and rip-off, enough people have bought in to the idea to make the necessary exchanges possible without a lot of risk.

        The $200M Chinese investment is an example of a whole cloth being generated from some unconnected occurrences. Though I’m certain that the Chinese are trying hard to get a working LENR, that investment (if it’s real) will start in China and stay in China. If IH are involved, they might make some profits if they’ve sold some working IP to China or may be putting money into a successful project within China. Either way, nothing at all to do with Rossi.

        If I don’t understand the logic of what someone is doing, then normally it’s because I don’t know enough of the circumstances. For Rossi, though, it’s pretty obvious that he does not have any working IP and that he thus has nothing to sell except hope that he’s telling the truth this time. A quick reprisal of his history should assure anyone that the likelihood of Rossi telling the truth is slim enough to ignore. As such, his actions imply some form of insanity. That also means that following him is a form of insanity too. All he will deliver will be lost time and money.

        The biggest argument for Rossi having some working IP is that no sane person would do what he’s done if they didn’t have something that actually worked. I’ve used this argument myself in the past, while sitting on the fence as to whether the data was real or not. Turning the argument around, though, implies that Rossi is reacting in a way a sane person wouldn’t do.

        1. From quite early on in this story Rossi’s reaction to any sort of challenge has shown lack of mental balance. Those supporting him have always found excuses. These get larger over time, so that now it is commonly accepted that Rossi behaves dysfunctionally, lies, is paranoid. Somehow the step to him also not behaving rationally over the exploitation of his deceit is one people find difficult.

          I think it is binary thinking. People can understand deceit, or lack of rationality, but not the fact that often the two go together.

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