Claims of libel and harassment

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It is being claimed on the internet that I have libelled them. That’s fun.

At least 4 individuals, independently said you harassed them by email. Various individuals have also complained your blog contains defamation and malicious falsehoods written about them. You’ve also used this Reddit section to further harass one of these individuals by repeating a defamatory claim they are a schizophrenic, despite them pointing out they’re not and asking you to cease and desist writing this libel. Enjoy losing your lawsuit; I hope the WMF counter-sue.

“4 individuals, independently.” I know three possibilities. None of these were harassment.

  • Oliver D. Smith claimed I harassed him by email, but I published our entire correspondence, and it shows no harassment. He didn’t like some of what I wrote to him, but the correspondence was begun by him and he continued it voluntarily.

The Talk page archive for my RatWiki article begins with a deception: I did not have any correspondence with Debunking spiritualism, which was Darryl L. Smith (who does not disclose that he wrote the article in the first place as retaliation). The email was all with his brother, Oliver D. Smith. And then Oliver, as Agent47, claimed I had harassed him, quoting a mail, which, in context was not harassment at all. And he lies about not having a brother editing RatWiki. Straight, bald-faced lie, to the RatWiki community. But he hates that community, has admitted to using it as a platform. Any notice he had previously claimed he was not editing RatWiki any more. He’s claimed that many times, and proceeded to edit more.

Perhaps he was lying to me, and in many other places about the brother. Perhaps anything. Once someone shows they lie like this, nothing they say can be trusted, even if accompanied by evidence, because they can develop skill in deception based on how evidence is presented. But if I responded to him based on a lie, his passing that on without disclosing what I was responding to would be more deception.

  • Joshua P. Schroeder claimed I harassed him by email. I published that email as well, as I recall. It was about getting material about him taken down. I had material on my blog, I had taken down, and I arranged to get other material on a different web site taken down, I was informing him that the trolls had archived those (in order to use it on RatWiki as an allegation of harassment) and the correspondence was voluntary and JSP did not object to it. However, he was working with the Smith brothers. This was not independent, and that was, in fact, part of a campaign of harassment. The original email to JPS was through the WMF mail facility, and if that had been harassment, it could have been a basis for the WMF ban.

However, there may also have been impersonation mails.

  •   John Vidale, from an image posted on Encyclopedia Dramatica, apparently did not like being notified that his review of a book on the sociology of cold fusion was the subject of a post on this blog: fantasy-rejects-itself/. I responded to that previously at fantasy-rejects-itself/#Update If anything about that post was offensive or incorrect, he remains welcome to correct it. It is not harassment for a blogger to notify someone they have been mentioned in a post. Period.

None of the above were harassment.

Various individuals have also complained your blog contains defamation and malicious falsehoods written about them.

Oliver and Darryl Smith complain that when evidence about their history is presented. They pretend that there are many people being “maligned.” They claimed for quite some time that there were no brothers editing RatWiki, for example, that there were no impersonations, that was all a crazy conspiracy theory. But the flood of throwaway accounts on Reddit in the last few days is simply another example in a long history of this behavior. Eventually, Oliver Smith admitted to being accounts that he had denied, for example, he denied being Octo (when it was obvious). Were it a mere denial of being a sock, not so offensive. But using it as an accusation of insanity? Here, Oliver listed articles he had created (already identified by me, generally). Edward Dutton was created by Octo. So he was lying, lying, lying. And that is one example among very many.

The sad thing here is that Oliver is not the most vicious of the brothers. And he is probably not behind all those throwaway socks. He is probably and fairly simply, insane. And, of course, that I say that becomes yet another accusation of defamation.

You’ve also used this Reddit section to further harass one of these individuals by repeating a defamatory claim they are a schizophrenic, despite them pointing out they’re not and asking you to cease and desist writing this libel.

Nobody obligated the Smith brothers to read those sections, and the section this was posted in is about my lawsuit against the WMF. Trollsocks poured in and I responded. So I am called a harasser? Now, what did I actually write? I don’t rely on my memory, and at my age that can be frikkin unreliable, especially for accurate detail. What I wrote on that page:

Oliver also claimed to be schizophrenic. 

I did not claim that he was a schizophrenic. This is common for the Smith trolls. They have no sense of accuracy, it is all about reaction and blame. I do not know that Oliver is a schizophrenic, what I know is this edit by Atlantid, which was admittedly him.

These trolls raise a farrago of deceptive “facts” and arguments, and responding to all of them will take more time than I have.

If anyone has questions, comments are open here. They may be left anonymously, and if one wants private communication, leave a valid email address and ask for the comment to be deleted. This will be respected, with one caveat:

Trolls will be roasted in butter and served with sour cream as snacks. Not kosher but I’m not Jewish. Skeptics and criticism is welcome, and corrections are specifically invited.

 

 

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