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I was using the IP 74.175.117.2. I am not Smith or Umbrecht or Joshua. Guy Chapman did send me an email to vote to delete your project, I regret doing this. Sorry I do not have a copy of the email any longer. I have since changed my IP. Hopefully you do not list me as a John Doe in your case. I agree with that Smith was probably the mobile IP but he did not start the deletion request, it was all JzG on a sock IP. Yes there was an email chain that went around about deleting your material. Out of good faith I wanted to admit this to you. You do not know my name, you only know the broad area of where I live from my old IP. Sorry I will not reveal my name. I am not really friendly with Chapman anymore, so I wanted to write this. I have no idea about the Smith brothers or Joshua P. Schroeder, I am not in contact with them anymore. I did a while back write a similar comment on the Wikipedia Sucks forum, but thought I would come clean. It was JzG who wanted you banned from Wikiversity. He told Joshua and the others to send the complaints. Regards. [[User:Computer|Computer]] ([[User talk:Computer|talk]]) 22:52, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 
I was using the IP 74.175.117.2. I am not Smith or Umbrecht or Joshua. Guy Chapman did send me an email to vote to delete your project, I regret doing this. Sorry I do not have a copy of the email any longer. I have since changed my IP. Hopefully you do not list me as a John Doe in your case. I agree with that Smith was probably the mobile IP but he did not start the deletion request, it was all JzG on a sock IP. Yes there was an email chain that went around about deleting your material. Out of good faith I wanted to admit this to you. You do not know my name, you only know the broad area of where I live from my old IP. Sorry I will not reveal my name. I am not really friendly with Chapman anymore, so I wanted to write this. I have no idea about the Smith brothers or Joshua P. Schroeder, I am not in contact with them anymore. I did a while back write a similar comment on the Wikipedia Sucks forum, but thought I would come clean. It was JzG who wanted you banned from Wikiversity. He told Joshua and the others to send the complaints. Regards. [[User:Computer|Computer]] ([[User talk:Computer|talk]]) 22:52, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
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:Thanks. There has been so much lying around all this that I cannot know whether or not to trust you. One of the Smith traits is diversion, blaming what they do on others. At this point, you are an anonymous informant providing me with information about JzG, which is possibly of some use. Of far higher use would be open testimony as to fact, rather than just an unverifiable story. I will say this much: if you did not complain to the WMF, if all you did was vote for deletion, and even though your comment was incorrect (what was repeated in the lead was from a thoroughly reliable source, a major review in a mainstream peer-reviewed journal), that would be far from defamatory, it would be merely an ordinary error. Your story, though, indicates malice was behind that affair, and so could be important. --[[User:Abd|Abd]] ([[User talk:Abd|talk]]) 01:55, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

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82.21.88.44

Abd Lomax,

I wanted to let you know that the deletion of your material on Wikiversity was started by Guy Chapman JzG , he uses the IP 82.21.88.44 which traces to Reading, UK where he lives. You can run a Google search on the IP to find out more about it.

https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/82.21.88.44

Chapman on 82.21.88.44 first submitted your project for deletion.

https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiversity:Requests_for_Deletion&diff=prev&oldid=1790574

Chapman was being deceptive and did not want to use his main account JzG. He commented "I am a user in good standing on multiple Wikimedia projects, including enWP".

https://en.wikiversity.org/w/index.php?title=Wikiversity:Requests_for_Deletion&diff=prev&oldid=1791566

I was using the IP 74.175.117.2. I am not Smith or Umbrecht or Joshua. Guy Chapman did send me an email to vote to delete your project, I regret doing this. Sorry I do not have a copy of the email any longer. I have since changed my IP. Hopefully you do not list me as a John Doe in your case. I agree with that Smith was probably the mobile IP but he did not start the deletion request, it was all JzG on a sock IP. Yes there was an email chain that went around about deleting your material. Out of good faith I wanted to admit this to you. You do not know my name, you only know the broad area of where I live from my old IP. Sorry I will not reveal my name. I am not really friendly with Chapman anymore, so I wanted to write this. I have no idea about the Smith brothers or Joshua P. Schroeder, I am not in contact with them anymore. I did a while back write a similar comment on the Wikipedia Sucks forum, but thought I would come clean. It was JzG who wanted you banned from Wikiversity. He told Joshua and the others to send the complaints. Regards. Computer (talk) 22:52, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. There has been so much lying around all this that I cannot know whether or not to trust you. One of the Smith traits is diversion, blaming what they do on others. At this point, you are an anonymous informant providing me with information about JzG, which is possibly of some use. Of far higher use would be open testimony as to fact, rather than just an unverifiable story. I will say this much: if you did not complain to the WMF, if all you did was vote for deletion, and even though your comment was incorrect (what was repeated in the lead was from a thoroughly reliable source, a major review in a mainstream peer-reviewed journal), that would be far from defamatory, it would be merely an ordinary error. Your story, though, indicates malice was behind that affair, and so could be important. --Abd (talk) 01:55, 28 May 2019 (UTC)