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Please contact me by email

It is urgent that the person who left a message on this page yesterday contact me privately. This can be done by enabling email here and sending me a mail, also notify me on this talk page that you have sent the mail. You may also have someone you trust contact me. That we communicate more directly is important for your protection. --Abd (talk) 11:09, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

Sorry, I will not contact you by email because you will trace it. You have an old public IP I used. It traces to Florida not Reading UK. You will never find out who I am. The Wikimedia Foundation will never tell you.

I have emailed my identity to the Wikimedia Foundation, they know who I am, I recently emailed Michael Umbrecht my identity. I have a long-standing Wikipedia account - I did not want to disclose publicly. Your material on cold fusion deserved to be deleted. I have not done anything wrong in voting to delete your pseudoscience. Please remove my IP from your lawsuit. Max (talk) 16:01, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

I very much appreciate that you told the truth, if you did. But there have been so many lies and impersonations that I cannot be sure. I believe you because the story you told made many otherwise mysterious pieces fit together. But to know for sure, your real identity is needed.
First of all, I cannot trace you through an anonymous email unless you don't take precautions, and I think you know how to take them. (And even then, without a court order, converting IP to name is not easy.)
If the case survives dismissal, it proceeds to discovery, where the WMF will be compelled to disclose information it has. They will attempt to protect privacy, I'm sure, but that protection will be limited. There is no privilege for private defamation, my opinion, and only privileged communications are most intensely protected, and those are still not fully protected.
Many things I would say to you privately that I cannot in public. And this is public. I want to communicate privately to protect you, not to harm you. I suggest enabling email for Max, using an anonymous email account that I cannot trace. We can then establish that the account is the same as Max here, and there are other steps that can be taken to establish your probity, short of revealing identity.
There no real safety except in the truth. --Abd (talk) 20:48, 8 June 2019 (UTC)

Deep trolling

The Smith brothers, getting desperate, are pulling out all the stops. This message was left here today:


I emailed you the divorce papers Nasima Bernhardt (talk) 11:26, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Nasima was my first wife, we were married for ten years and had five wonderful children, and seven wonderful grandchildren so far. We were divorced almost forty years ago, and are good friends. She remarried years later and Bernhardt is her present married name. I spent some time with her and a pile of kids and grandkids last Thanksgiving. Life is good, even if it sometimes takes unexpected turns.

Besides this being nonsense, and she would not call me "Dennis," and she would certainly not use a Tor node for access, as this impersonation sock did.

The Smiths try everything, and have been doing that since September 2017, when I uncovered impersonation sock puppetry on Wikipedia, used to defame an innocent user, and exposed it. They are currently creating several sock puppets a day for attack, mostly on Reddit at this point. Their scheme has been unravelling in many, many ways. --Abd (talk) 22:36, 11 June 2019 (UTC)

Drop the lawsuit

Just drop it. Move on with your life. Thanks Move on with your life (talk) 14:22, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

This may or may not be a Smith brother, but the Smiths have been "advising" me to do this since 2017. I decide what is my life, not them. I am responsible for what I accomplish and fail to accomplish, not them. The lawsuit is moving forward, the Amended Complaint has been filed, and we are waiting for the WMF to make the next move, as they choose. Legal opinion is starting to appear that just maybe this is not a "lolsuit," or as one defendant called it (before he had actually been named, by the way), "frivolous." Some people are learning or are about to learn that the too-common wiki contemptuous snark can be expensive. Reality has a way of intruding. --Abd (talk) 19:44, 23 June 2019 (UTC)


Hey, what is the deadline the WMF have to respond? Is it 21 days they have? When do you think they will respond? 20:54, 28 June 2019 (UTC)

They have 14 days from the service of the Amended Complaint, or Monday, July 1. I've been told to expect it then.

51.15, I have been in email communication with Jimmy Wales et al. Only hints given away but very likely The WMF will respond with motion to dismiss. Abd will not get discovery... his defendants are resting easily.

His lawsuit should have been filed against the RationalWiki Foundation. Do you plan on filing a new one against RationalWiki Abd? If your WMF lawsuit is dismissed how will you go on without discovery? Are you filing another ? ... 00:48, 29 June 2019 (UTC)

While they could change their mind, very unlikly. They will file a Motion to Dismiss, and I pretty much know the arguments they will present, unless they come up with something new. Several points here. Their MtD will be based on certain principles that apply to them and not to the other defendants. This will not affect the suit against the other defendants. As to Discovery, I have little experience, but information can still be subpoenaed from them, and certainly I would attempt that. I would not file another suit unless I am unable to serve the defendants. Most of them can be served. If the suit is dismissed against the WMF, that might or might not cover Alexander.
The RMF is a separate issue. I have not dropped a certified letter on their registered agent, as i did with the WMF over a year ago. Yes, when this particular suit is out of my hair, I will probably do that, and if they ignore it, well, I have strong reason to believe that RMF agents or officers were involved in the conspiracy to defame. I rather doubt that the WMF is going to prevail with an MtD, from the precedents I have studied. But they will certainly try, and any sane lawyer will tell you that little or nothing is a slam-dunk. Something that non-lawyers don't seem to understand: Motions to Dismiss usually fail. The original WMF motion would not have failed, it would have succeeded, because the original complaint, being a form filled out with little study by a pro se plaintiff, was defective. I also knew that I would be able to amend it.
It is, my humble non-lawyer opinion, much stronger now, based on relatively recent law. We'll see what Jones Day comes up with. These are highly competent lawyers, and while that is important, it is not everything. Fact also matters. --Abd (talk) 20:08, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
I suspect the IPS above might be Guy Chapman. He has responded to you here laughing at the lawsuit and citing your RationalWiki article https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/josephbernstein/wikipedia-ban-editor-culture-war 03:48, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
It's a TOR node, as is your access. Not so likely to be Chapman, but maybe. In any case, thanks for the heads up. I might not have noticed that. Chapman cites the now-moot WMF response as if it means something. He calls it a lolsuit, as have others. I hope they believe that and ignore the summons when served. That could be fun. --Abd (talk) 20:08, 29 June 2019
How long do you have to respond to the WMF? What date has it got to be filed on? Will you be making your response public on here like your amended complaint? I find Guy Chapman's public replies very odd. Nowhere in them did he deny the civil conspiracy. He has gone public about this but did not deny anything, I was assuming he would do the opposite, but maybe that is a tactic he is using. Who knows. 01:40, 7 July 2019 (UTC)